tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post6656752951710128981..comments2024-03-28T19:16:02.689-04:00Comments on Catholic in Brooklyn: Is It A Mistake For Catholics To Trust The Catholic Church?Catholic in Brooklynhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02714284710110785019noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post-89786755105161195602014-07-19T03:10:56.480-04:002014-07-19T03:10:56.480-04:00I am part of the Hierarchy of the Church, though n...I am part of the Hierarchy of the Church, though not high ranking. Yet due to my vocation, I have spent time with Holy Priests, and lukewarm priests, to those that truly dislike the church as it is, and would like us to just like the Episcopal church in all things (except the Anglo High Church has better music and inspiring liturgies). There is a need for us all to go back to the Church Fathers and Popes of the pasts, and make sure we are living our faith and morals according to the truths handed down to us from Christ to his Apostles to us now though the bishops. The one reason why there are so many fights in my humble opinion , is due to the ambiguity within some of the post Vatican II Documents themselves. Some things can be taken one way or another. I pray that the Hierarchy of the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church will write a Commentary, issued by the Holy Father which explains each Post concilliar Document in its entirety. Also, we need to obey things from the documents that were ignored, regarding the Divine Liturgy. Above all we need to pray for the Lord to raise up great Holy Saints among our bishops and priests especially.I believe we need another Universal Catholic Council to fix the problems we face in the Church today. to make sure the Faith in being transmitted using the hermenutics of continuity with the past dogmatic and Liturgical statements of the past, be they before, during or after the 7 great Ecumenical Councils. Until then, we need people like Michael Voris, who in many ways is like a modern day Prophet; they prophet were need to call back the people of God to orthodox faith and praxis. You mentioned the Gates of Hell not overcoming the Church? it will never happen,But remember it came close in history during the arian heresy. 85 percent of the bishops and the their layfaithful left the Orthodox Catholic Faith to believe in heresies, such as Jesus was not the Eternal Logos, but only a creature, a man.It took some bold bishops and the power of the Holy Spirit to fix the Church. Perhaps we are in such a crisis today? I for one believe we are. I follow and Practice the Holy Faith serving my parish and diocese and also helping the Ukrainian Catholic Church (I have received permission from both bishops involved). We must all study and learn and research the truths of our faith as St. Paul Said, "study to show yourselves approved unto God as a workman that need not be ashamed rightly dividing the Word of Truth. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369539944036604188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post-80029659882869931272014-07-12T14:59:39.665-04:002014-07-12T14:59:39.665-04:00What an amazing thing. The Church isn't perfe...What an amazing thing. The Church isn't perfect. Seems to me this has been true since the time of the apostles. Is that reason to turn on them and try to destroy them? Those who make mistakes or are actually involved in corruption need to be called out. But that does not mean we should destroy the entire "Establishment" Church as Voris advocates.<br /> <br />Actions such as this are playing right into the hands of the Evil One. Catholic in Brooklynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02714284710110785019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post-74558833950801177262014-07-12T13:38:05.789-04:002014-07-12T13:38:05.789-04:00Well, let's take a look at just the most recen...Well, let's take a look at just the most recent "stumble" of the hierarchy that our friend here, Gerard, likes to simplify it as:<br />http://wdtprs.com/blog/2014/07/hhs-money-to-church-entities-long-before-waves-of-illegal-immigrants/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post-3903765486599883632014-07-12T13:33:51.210-04:002014-07-12T13:33:51.210-04:00stevendallas. I painted a picture that comes to mi...stevendallas. I painted a picture that comes to mind when I see the behavior exhibited by the crowd of Catholics who promote disrespect for Church hierarchy. Having been treated to this behavior after making civil comments that offer an opposing view, my description of the behavior isn't dishonest. If you're familiar at all with the followers of those who seek to lead Catholics away from the structure of the Church, you'll know what I mean. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15462825817557505195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post-81862934099645054712014-07-12T13:26:34.161-04:002014-07-12T13:26:34.161-04:00What do you think of the following statements:
&q...What do you think of the following statements:<br /><br />"If you make your way around the Catholic world today, one thing is blinding. It’s inescapable – there is an apostate Church operating within the power structure of the establishment Church. It is a wicked evil thing. Parish after parish, diocese after diocese has abandoned the true faith. <br /><br />lying/deceitful or misled archdiocesan chancery<br /><br />you must come to understand you have been lied to and deceived by wicked and weak men who have no care or concern for your immortal souls. They have profited in a hundred different ways from your ignorance and your giving into to your passions. You have been deceived and now you must pray to Our Blessed Lord to pull you out of the mighty waters before you are drowned. Time is running out .. repent and let go of the apostate Church<br /><br />repent and let go of the apostate Church – the one that teaches you nothing in preparation for standing before Almighty God."<br /><br />Do these statements seem like they are designed to produce unity in the Church of God? These are statements from just ONE Vortex episode. There is also the Vortex which is the subject of this post, which clearly shows how Voris manipulates and lies to get his point across.<br /><br />You're right. You can't make this stuff up. It is appalling beyond words.Catholic in Brooklynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02714284710110785019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post-41738045647680074042014-07-12T11:15:13.047-04:002014-07-12T11:15:13.047-04:00Gerard is appalled at hateful comments, after his ...Gerard is appalled at hateful comments, after his opening paragraph of accusing fellow Catholics of being jackals, rabble-rousers, pack mentality, uncivilized, blind parrots, and gang mentality. Brilliant! You can't make this stuff up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post-77498013920717345932014-07-10T08:48:36.001-04:002014-07-10T08:48:36.001-04:00Very well said. Thank you. Having been part of t...Very well said. Thank you. Having been part of the "Traditionaliist" movement for many years, and having very much of the mindset that you describe, I can attest to the truth of your words. <br /><br />Satan is so clever, and he knows the best way to throw us off track is to appeal to our pride. He doesn't care if he gets to us by tempting us with immorality or self righteousness. It all ends up the same. Rebellion against Our Lord and His Church.<br /><br />I feel that having been a part of this "Catholic Uprising" as Michael Voris so accurately calls it (while promoting it at the same time), I have some right to speak to this issue. My writings are more directed to me than anyone else.Catholic in Brooklynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02714284710110785019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post-2680744332858386422014-07-09T20:54:06.883-04:002014-07-09T20:54:06.883-04:00You're welcome. I enjoy your blog entries. You...You're welcome. I enjoy your blog entries. You've pointed out that you write to help you sort through issues. I use that method when I'm faced with a troubling situation. Setting the problem on paper helps me view it more objectively and discern the next best step. I find the adoration chapel a great place to write. Christ keeps me honest. <br /><br />Christ often used the image of the shepherd and sheep. Our challenge is to be sheep. We resist it. We don't like being part of the flock, one of many. It's a lifelong struggle to be humble and childlike and submit to the will of the shepherd. We're tempted to break away and have our own little herd. The Lucifer syndrome. Protestants have done that and I see some rebellious Catholics taking that path. They distract some sheep from the flock under the guise of having a keener, more enlightened knowledge of the faith. They plant seeds of doubt about those in authority. They're unforgiving and don't miss an opportunity to point out any failing or misstep of the leaders. Problem is that Christ has neither called nor appointed these rebels as shepherds. When they lead the herd away from the legitimately ordained shepherds and encourage grumbling, resentment and even attacks on those appointed by Christ, they chip away at the rock of Peter. They may claim that Peter is off limits and confine their open disrespect and disdain to bishops and priests but ultimately, they're showing contempt even for Peter in rejecting the bishops appointed by him. And they do nothing to hold their followers in check who make outrageously disrespectful remarks about the Holy Father. Any blogger or social media page administrator has the duty to monitor the comments and encourage respect for Church authority and civil discourse with one another. They cause division which is counter to Christ's prayer that "they all be one".<br /><br />We've seen the problems brought about by this sort of division in the Protestant world. Now we're seeing it among Catholics. Attack the leaders and start your own band of "real" Catholics as opposed to all those others. Coming together as brothers and sisters for the salvation of all souls is what we need to do. There may be times when our appointed shepherds stumble or grow tired and we have to nudge or even carry them. They deserve our love, respect and support, not to be trampled under foot. God have mercy on those promoting division in our beautiful Church. May they learn to trust our Lord who promised that the gates of hell won't prevail against His Church and work together to build up rather than tear down. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15462825817557505195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post-5809344521808468462014-07-09T18:52:46.570-04:002014-07-09T18:52:46.570-04:00Wow. Thank you so much for those words. I wish I ...Wow. Thank you so much for those words. I wish I could say differently, but your words are, regrettably, very true. <br /><br />It is good to hear from someone who truly loves the Church and trusts that Our Lord will not allow His Church to lead us astray. Catholic in Brooklynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02714284710110785019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post-1155671710755109922014-07-09T18:18:34.393-04:002014-07-09T18:18:34.393-04:00Great points. Don't let the negative people si...Great points. Don't let the negative people silence you. <br /><br />There is a group of Catholics who are rabble-rousers. They don't see the big picture. They have a pack mentality and egg each other on. One will nip at your heels and soon you're surrounded by a group of jackals who take delight in ripping at you. They don't have the confidence in their position to have a civil discussion. Many of them don't seem capable of thinking things through on their own and blindly parrot the words of their leader. It's similar to a gang mentality. They enjoy adopting an "us (the only truly faithful Catholics) against them (Church hierarchy and everyone who doesn't rubber-stamp their ringleader's agenda)" mentality. They take personal affront if anyone dares to criticize their beloved leader. We saw it with Fr Corapi's fan club. We see it with Michael Voris' fan club. People go for the rebel image.<br /><br />The ringleaders will answer for their part in ginning up the crowd and leading Catholics to commit character assassination. I'm apalled at some of the hateful comments I see coming from the fans of those who make it their occupation and livelihood to snipe at Church hierarchy. What can be in the heart of one who spends so much time searching for ways to criticize Church leaders? They have little trust in Christ. They are self-proclaimed martyrs and saviors, so filled with pride. They're so enraptured by the accolades of their groupies that they can't hear Satan heartily applauding their work. Pray for them.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15462825817557505195noreply@blogger.com