tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post7585787190278113145..comments2024-03-28T19:16:02.689-04:00Comments on Catholic in Brooklyn: Pope Francis and The IdeologuesCatholic in Brooklynhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02714284710110785019noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post-2026209436618035012014-05-28T01:23:11.117-04:002014-05-28T01:23:11.117-04:00I know I am late to this party.
What likely happe...I know I am late to this party.<br /><br />What likely happened is simplicity itself. The Pope called this woman & He told her one thing but she heard another. I know about this I work in the Queens Library. I am forever telling people one thing(about library rules and Policy) & having them hear another thing.<br /><br />OTOH worst case scenario he told this woman something imprecise & she has come to a bad conclusion because of his imprudence.<br />But even St John Paul II was imprudent in the way the didn’t deal with Fr. Marcel & I can point to a host of Saint who dropped the ball.<br /><br />Still if Francis is what passes for a “bad Pope” I won’t loose sleep over it. Wake me when the Pope is openly living with his girlfriend at the Vatican (or God forbid his boyfriend) then I will get upset.Son of Ya'Kovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05645132954231868592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post-33921976859382596472014-04-28T13:06:05.995-04:002014-04-28T13:06:05.995-04:00Thank you so much, Mr. Clark. All of this wringing...Thank you so much, Mr. Clark. All of this wringing of hands and declaring that the pope is a heretic shows our complete lack of trust in the promises of Jesus Christ. Our Lord promised us that His Vicar and the Church can never lead us astray. All we need do is take the advice given by Moses to the Israelites, "Stand still and see the salvation of the Lord."Catholic in Brooklynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02714284710110785019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post-75414792819650279912014-04-28T12:34:44.250-04:002014-04-28T12:34:44.250-04:00Steve
I agree that nobody would object to the Pop...Steve<br /> I agree that nobody would object to the Pope clarifying that what is being reported in that phone call is not, in fact, what he said. I for one would be glad to listen if his Holiness felt the need to set the record straight.<br /> However, that is signifying different from calling on him to clarifying himself. The Pope is unlike other earthly leaders, he answers only to God. If the Holy Father does clarify what was said, it should be because he felt it should be, not because we think it should be. We are not talking about the man Jorge Mario Bergoglio; we are talking about the Vicar of Christ.<br /> I also agree with Catholic in Brooklyn. In the hundreds of statements, speeches and Homilies Pope Francis has made since becoming Pope, he has substantiated shown his fidelity to Church Teaching. I agree that we should have more confidence in Pope Francis and not give undo credence to this unsubstantiated story.<br /> I also would however take this a step further; I believe that we should have more confidence in the provincial protection of God. When the Risen Christ founded the Church with Peter as the head he also said, "...and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."<br />His Holiness is incapable of teaching error, not because of whom he is, but because of whom he represents. The Pope represents Christ. Papal infallibility is a dogma of the Church. In our history we have seen this even with bad Popes, like Alexander VI. He was a very sinful man and clearly abused Papal authority. However, he never taught error. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16438975605937602658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post-70795626589406420032014-04-27T01:05:47.127-04:002014-04-27T01:05:47.127-04:00Steve, I think you need to re-read my post. It is...Steve, I think you need to re-read my post. It is quite obvious from the Pope's statements to the African bishops that he believes very strongly in the sanctity of marriage and in defending church teaching on this subject. The fact that he did not try to defend himself against the woman and her husband who reported his alleged statement on Facebook tells me that Pope Francis' doesn't want to take a chance on pushing them even further away from God than they already are.<br />This couple has already separated themselves from the Church. Pope Francis is showing deep concern for their souls by not publicly engaging them in any way. <br /><br />If people are taking this unsubstantiated statement as a reason to reject the sanctity of marriage, then they are merely looking for an excuse to reject Church teaching. As others have said, church doctrine does not come from private conversations, most especially those which are extremely suspect. Catholic in Brooklynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02714284710110785019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5636389828900724226.post-24908156060966669992014-04-26T22:11:10.892-04:002014-04-26T22:11:10.892-04:00So, how could anyone possibly object to the pope c...So, how could anyone possibly object to the pope clarifying that what is being reported in that phone call is not, in fact, what he said? <br /><br />What would be lost by his making that effort - surely no greater than the effort to make the phone call itself? <br /><br />Instead, I'm hearing from people in parish situations who think this is a green light for the divorced and remarried to receive communion. If not now, then in the immediate future. <br /><br />You OK with that? Because considering that there are saints who put their lives on the line to defend the Eucharist, I think the expenditure of a little papal effort is warranted here. Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03954832843414652616noreply@blogger.com