Saturday, May 7, 2022

Overturning Roe v. Wade Will Not Stop Abortion. But It Could Destroy The Nation.

 

I was in high school in 1973 when the Supreme Court legalized abortion for the entire country.  Almost 50 years later, I still remembering looking at the headline in the newspaper in disbelief.  How could we legalize the murder of babies? I sat down and cried. 

I have gone through many political identities in the ensuing half century, from very liberal to ultra conservative to rejection of both. But one constant belief through it all has always been that abortion is evil. 

Now that it is almost certain that Roe v. Wade is about to be overturned, I should be thrilled. It is something I have wanted since 1973. 

But being a lot older and a little wiser, I now realize that the pro life movement has always been wrong.  No, it has not been wrong that abortion is evil.  The pro life movement was wrong in their approach to abortion. They have not just labeled abortion as evil. They have  vilified the people who support abortion, calling them evil and even satanic.   As a movement, they have never shown compassion or understanding for those who support abortion. 

The pro life movement's main strategy has always been political.  Every candidate in almost every office was judged by their stand on abortion.  The pro life movement worked to change both state and federal laws. They held an annual March on Washington, which was done each year on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade.  The pro life movement put all their hopes in a conservative Supreme Court, and they would vote for any presidential candidate who promised to pack the Court with conservatives.

The one thing the pro life movement has never done is to try to change the hearts and minds of people. They have never reached out to the other side other than to vilify them.  

My "good friend" Mary Ann Kreitzer, is a prime example of this.  She just did a post in which she talks about the "riots" in Los Angeles over the leaked Supreme Court decision.  From Kreitzer's post:

Watch this video from the L.A. riot and ask yourself who are the thugs? Then read the decision, an intelligent decision righting an "egregious wrong." The leftist thugs want chaos because ultimately it will enable more power and control over the population. Will any of these real insurrectionists face repercussions? Of course not! They burned our cities and murdered people with impunity and prospered like the BLM commies who spent donor funds buying themselves a $6 million dollar mansion.

Take note that all of the rioting and thug action is taking place in liberal states. The states that actually have the most protective legislation for babies in the womb are seeing very little if any protest activity. So the L.A. rioters, in a state where abortion is unrestricted up to and even after birth, want to make sure that residents of other states that defend life, states like Florida, Texas, Alabama, etc., will be forced to accept and facilitate child killing. No rights for those tiny Americans even when they are old enough to live outside the womb. The babies are the modern slaves owned by their mothers (dads have no rights) and can be killed for any reason or no reason. And they are! Take a look at these photos of late term babies murdered in D.C. recently by hired killer Cesare Santangelo at Washington Surgi-Center.

If you want to see the photos and videos referred to by Mary Ann, go to her post. I will not print them here.

Mary Ann seems to not know the difference between "riots" and "protests".  Here is what actually happened in Los Angeles. This is from the Los Angeles Times:

Around 7:30 p.m., officers escorted a group of about 250 demonstrators marching from the courthouse at Broadway and 1st Street to Pershing Square, said Los Angeles Police Chief Michel Moore. At some point, a group started to take over an intersection.

“We attempted to communicate, clear and provide dispersal order to the group,” Moore said in a tweet shortly after 9 p.m. “Crowd began to throw rocks and bottles” at police, Moore tweeted, adding that one officer was injured to an unknown extent.

Around 8:30 p.m., as the gathering started to disperse, some protesters blocked the intersection of 5th and Hill streets, just outside Pershing Square.

Police slowly drove a pair of vehicles into the intersection, moving about 40 protesters out of the way. Some were seen pounding on the hoods of the vehicles; most left the intersection.

Police declared an unlawful assembly at 9:20 p.m. and lifted it about 20 minutes later.

Officers hit some of the protesters with batons. A glass door at a Planet Fitness was smashed.

A sizable police presence remained in downtown past 9 p.m. as a few dozen protesters roamed around the streets near City Hall.

One person smashed the window of a law enforcement vehicle near Grand Park, and others tagged a bus stop with the words “Google LASD gangs.”

Some stayed as 10 p.m. approached, knocking over fences at City Hall and spray-painting slogans on the pavement. The groups had largely dispersed by 10:30 p.m., and officers put fences back up.
Yes, there were some physical confrontations, some property damage and one police officer was injured.  But that alone does not a riot make.  

Also, contrary to Mary Ann's assertions about "all of the rioting and thug action taking place in liberal states", Yahoo News reported:
Thousands of abortion rights protesters gathered in cities across the country on Tuesday. And most were peaceful.
Mary Ann needs to look at the footage from January 6, 2021 at the US Capital to see an actual riot.  Five people killed, immense amounts of property damage, and death threats to politicians with a gallows constructed at the Capital.  THAT is a riot.  This is what we saw from the "pro life" Right on January 6, 2021:



Our Lord's message to us is very clear and specific when it comes to our role in this world.  Matthew 16:15-16:
He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Nowhere in Scriptures does it say we should get involved in the politics of this world.  No where does it say we should protest and disobey just because we disagree with our government. In fact, St. Paul told us just the opposite:

Romans 13:1-5:

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

Certainly we are not to submit to any secular laws that break God's laws. And certainly we have the right to speak up against laws which we consider immoral. We should not stay silent in the face of evil. But there is a way to do it, and a way not to do it. 

Using St. Teresa of Calcutta as an example, she never condemned those who supported abortion.  She just told them the results of abortion and that it could never be good.  

Here is an excerpt from op ed this great saint wrote for the Wall Street Journal:

"America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe v. Wade has deformed a great nation. The so-called right to abortion has pitted mothers against their children and women against men. It has sown violence and discord at the heart of the most intimate human relationships. It has aggravated the derogation of the father's role in an increasingly fatherless society. It has portrayed the greatest of gifts -- a child -- as a competitor, an intrusion, and an inconvenience. It has nominally accorded mothers unfettered dominion over the independent lives of their physically dependent sons and daughters. And, in granting this unconscionable power, it has exposed many women to unjust and selfish demands from their husbands or other sexual partners. Human rights are not a privilege conferred by government. They are every human being's entitlement by virtue of his humanity. The right to life does not depend, and must not be declared to be contingent, on the pleasure of anyone else, not even a parent or a sovereign." (Mother Teresa -- "Notable and Quotable," Wall Street Journal, 2/25/94, p. A14)

Another quote:

"What is taking place in America," she said, "is a war against the child. And if we accept that the mother can kill her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another." February 1997 - National Prayer Breakfast in Washington attended by the President and the First Lady. 

There is no name calling from St. Teresa, no condemnation of those who support abortion, no vilifying anyone. This great saint talked about the evils of abortion, not the evils of people. She is trying to reach the people, not the politicians. She never once advocated marching and protesting.  Quite to the contrary, St. Teresa of Calcutta said the answer to abortion was in prayer:
“If people spend one hour per week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended”
The politics of this world is not the Christian way. Politics does not unite people. Politics does not change their minds and hearts. Politics divides people and turns them against one another.  That is the fruit of politics, and that is not from God.

When Pilate asked Jesus why the Jews handed Him over to be killed, Our Lord answered as follows:
“My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”

 St. Paul tells us Philippians 3:20:

But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ
As Christians, we are to separate from this world. That does not mean to physically separate from those around us. That means we are not to think or act as the world does. Everything a Christian does should be done out of love and for the good of the other.  It is not our job to stand in judgment of others.  It is our job as Christians to bring people to Christ, and we cannot do this by condemning and vilifying.  

Our Lord said, "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him." (John 3:16-17).  He repeated in John 12:47, "I came not to judge the world, but to save the world."

In contrast, Mary Ann Kreitzer ended her above-referenced post with these words: 
God help the bloodthirsty worshipers of Satan with their satanic sacrament of abortion!
That exemplifies everything that is wrong with the pro life movement.  That is why repealing Roe v Wade will not end abortion but only intensify the fight.  

The pro life movement may believe they have won the war with the repeal of Roe v. Wade. But it is only being escalated to a whole new level.  As long as the pro lifers judge and condemn as they have always done, they will lose.  

As we have seen in the polls, the majority of people do not want to see the repeal of Roe v. Wade. Most people still see a need to keep abortion legal.  That alone shows the pro life movement has failed.

Abortion will only end when the people see the evil in it.   Right now all they see are self righteous and judgmental people trying to control their lives.  And people like Mary Ann Kreitzer just dump more fuel on that fire. 


11 comments:

  1. Hi Mary, I'm surprised you and Kreitzer still engage one another. I definitely get your point but your saying: "Nowhere in Scriptures does it say we should get involved in the politics of this world." Doesn't matter. We are no Scripture alone Christians. Countless messages from the Vatican affirm the Christian's responsibility in public life and the politician's responsibility to enact just laws and so on.
    Here are a couple of references/links:

    "By fulfilling their civic duties, «guided by a Christian conscience»,[7] in conformity with its values, the lay faithful exercise their proper task of infusing the temporal order with Christian values, all the while respecting the nature and rightful autonomy of that order,[8] and cooperating with other citizens according to their particular competence and responsibility.[9] The consequence of this fundamental teaching of the Second Vatican Council is that «the lay faithful are never to relinquish their participation in ‘public life’, that is, in the many different economic, social, legislative, administrative and cultural areas, which are intended to promote organically and institutionally the common good»" - https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20021124_politica_en.html

    Catechism:
    "2245 The Church, because of her commission and competence, is not to be confused in any way with the political community. She is both the sign and the safeguard of the transcendent character of the human person. "The Church respects and encourages the political freedom and responsibility of the citizen." 52

    2246 It is a part of the Church's mission "to pass moral judgments even in matters related to politics, whenever the fundamental rights of man or the salvation of souls requires it. The means, the only means, she may use are those which are in accord with the Gospel and the welfare of all men according to the diversity of times and circumstances." 53http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s1c2a2.htm

    USCCB: https://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/faithful-citizenship/church-teaching/catholics-in-political-life

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    1. Hey Terry. As I said in my post, we should speak up against immoral laws in our society. St. Teresa of Calcutta, as I pointed out my post, certainly never shied away from that. St. Maximillian Kolbe got himself thrown into Auschwitz for speaking up against Hitler. St. Thomas More got his head cut off. There are innumerable more examples throughout history.

      My problem with many in the pro life movement and other movements is that they believe change can came from politics. They do nothing to reach out and change minds and hearts. They believe that if they just get the right number of politicians to back them up, that will rid the world of whatever evil they are fighting. As we can see right now with the almost certain repeal of Roe v. Wade, this is only making things worse.

      As far as changing things through the political process - sorry. Our political system is completely corrupt. I agree with Mother Teresa: things will only change through prayer. I have and will continue to write about evils in our society. But I am under no illusions that politics is our savior.

      Read Mary Ann's post. It is a perfect example of condemning and judging and doing nothing to reach out to others. All that does is cause more enemies and does nothing to rid the world of the evil of abortion.

      The pro life movement always thought that if they can repeal Roe v. Wade, that would rid the world of abortion. All it is doing is escalating the war. When Roe v. Wade is officially repealed, the division is our nation will get immeasurably worse. That will be the legacy of the pro life movement.

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    2. In further reply, Terry, I noticed this is the quote from Vatican II document: "the lay faithful are never to relinquish their participation in ‘public life’, that is, in the many different economic, social, legislative, administrative and cultural areas, which are intended to promote organically and institutionally the common good"

      Maybe I'm just an old cynic, but I don't see anything in politics that is "intended to promote. . .the common good."

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  2. I continue to look in now and then to see what might be the latest rhetorical twist in your furious evolutionary journey from political progressive, to arch conservative, to Papalolater or whatever you are now, and yet might decide to be. Perhaps tomorrow pantheism, or even Theosphism and the "Golden Dawn" will beckon you.

    But now, given your remarks about politics which you proof text with passages from the Scriptures, it might be interesting to see you answer the following question[s]: "Do you vote"? If so, what biblical permission do you have for doing so?

    Another question would be whether you believe that you are personally fit for citizenship in a constitutional republic; and, whether in enjoying as you obviously have the safe space which it has - and the men who maintained it have - afforded you to sample the spiritual smorgasbord you have been grazing at for years now, you feel any duty to preserve a rule of law polity; even in the face of the judicially legislating progressives who would kill it.

    Or is it your scripturally enjoined duty to roll over and play dead for whoever has acquired political office, perhaps, "by any means necessary"...

    Finally, if those who kill their own offspring and then celebrate the act [see below] as one of liberation and self-realization cannot be said to have embraced evil, then perhaps the meaning of the term "evil" needs to be reevaluated.

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  3. Since you choose not to respond to any of the points made in my post and instead choose to engage in insults and mischaracterization, I will not respond to you. But unlike you, I will not insult you.

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    1. You were not insulted. Your published personal "faith history" was remarked upon as a predicate.

      You were then asked in the context of your scripture quoting, if you voted; and if so if you had biblical permission to vote.

      You were also asked if, living in a constitutional rule of law polity founded by men unlike you in attitude, and after enjoying the benefits of dwelling in the same, you felt either fit for such citizenship or even any obligation to maintain that polity in the face of ongoing assaults on the liberties of the citizen and the rule of law (under which one might include the separation of powers issue posed by the original Roe decision).

      These are questions which go directly to the predicate assumptions which under-gird your criticisms of others.

      I also, in response to your remarks about the supposed wrong of falsely imputing evil inclinations to abortion participants included a lengthy quote from the Salon writer who gloried in abortion, and stated that some lives were indeed worth sacrificing in the name not only of health narrowly construed, but opportunity.

      Perhaps you would find that comment less insulting, and more directly responsive.

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    2. This is the last time I will reply to your comment. My post was NOT about "biblical permission to vote." My post was NOT about "the supposed wrong of falsely imputing evil inclinations to abortion participants."

      The scriptures I quoted clearly state that we are to submit to authority. There is no way to deny that. I, of course, included the caveat that we should never submit to immoral authority or laws. And of course, we should always speak out against immoral laws, as the Church has always done. I included the example of St. Teresa of Calcutta who spoke out forcefully against abortion. But I showed that she did not condemn those who participated in abortion but against the evil of abortion itself.

      My point is that the only way abortion will ever stop is not through trying to legislate it out of existence but by changing the minds and hearts of people. And if the past couple of weeks has not proved that to you, nothing will.

      Of course we should vote for those people whom we feel can make a difference and will promote morality. But my opinion is that it is really hard to find those people.

      As far as "the supposed wrong of falsely imputing evil inclinations to abortion participants", again, you are clearly and deliberately misrepresenting my post. Just as Jesus Christ always reached out with compassion to the sinner, we should do that same. If we really want to stop abortion, we have to stop condemning people and start reaching out to them with compassion and understanding. We have to change their minds and hearts and help them to see that their babies are precious lives and not disposable. To try to change abortion merely through political means has and will continue to only further divide our nation and produce even more hate.

      I will not be publishing any more of your comments.

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  4. Catholic in Brooklyn, check out the following URLs:

    https://www.ncregister.com/commentaries/revisiting-roe-why-the-supreme-court-decision-on-mississippi-case-will-likely-ditch-viability

    https://www.ncregister.com/commentaries/the-right-and-wrong-way-to-overturn-roe-v-wade

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    1. Thanks, Christopher. Again, these posts are just about changing the law. That will not stop abortion. We must work to change the minds and hearts of people. The pro life movement has completely missed the boat on this one and they are doing irreparable harm to the country. Not to mention that their methods will never stop abortion.

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    2. Even if SCOTUS overturns "Roe v. Wade" this year, the contraceptive mentality will continue to have a strangehold on American culture. What is really needed is more evangelization.

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    3. Yes! That is my point exactly. Changing the laws does not change the people. We need to forget about the politicians and reach out to change the minds and hearts of the people. Thank you, Christopher.

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